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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:29 am 
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That's the only thing that I can think of that makes booting the Icebreakers make sense: by kicking them out of the service, they're no longer under any obligation to explain what has happened aboard the Outcast when they get to the Hypatia.

Well... That could be true from a legal perspective, but they are in a warzone and the Hypatia is hunting for a renegade ship. I'm sure any information on the Outcast would be REALLY appreciated... Besides, Captain Kurosawa was relieved of command by Admiral Cherensky, so she might not have had the authrority to dismiss the Icebreakers from the service, something that's likely going to be pointed out to them if they backtalk to their rescuers. Withholding important information from superiors is a punishable offense.

Not that they know much of use in addition to Toat and BG though, something Captain Konrad probably realises. Revealing your masterplan to people you are about to maroon for pursuers to pick up just doesn't seem like a smart course of action for Capn' Rob.
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b) they'd want to rescue Hammer, once she tells the crew that she's the reason she let Shorty go.

While I'm sure the Icebreakers would want to, I'm not sure they were going to try without the Outcast behind their backs. There were some good friendships there and common dangers brew a sense of camaraderie, but still, Hammer is being held on a big-azz colonial warship. An epic tale and all, but just what are three youngsters supposed to do about it?

... Unless, if Hammer had a mithril shirt under her pilot outfit and the colonials got into a violent argument over who gets it... :wink:

I can't say I think Hammer was the reason the Captain let the colonials escape, and I view it doubtful it was even a significant contributing factor. They were about to board an enemy that had professed a determination to resist until the end, so casualties were probably a certainty. Why abandon it all for the life of a single soldier? There have to be other reasons.
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As to losing pilots, it is quite possible she'll be losing a lot of crew, so what difference do 3 people make?


Just how many pilots does she have left? I'd think she would retain as much of the crew as she possibly can.

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If you wish to argue it's 3 PILOTS, remember how little training they had - she can train others if she needs them that bad.


...I really don't think that's how it works. Even if she can train older, more mature crewmembers to fly, that doesn't mean they'll be any good; they're non-flight personnel for a damn good reason, I'm sure.

Discounting the Icebreakers, the Captain currently has the Green Giants and Scimitar, which amounts to 5 or 6 pilots (one GG was KIA at the jumpgate, one other GG fighter was lost to the missile strike though it was not stated if the pilot survived). So three pilots represent a significant proportion of her fighter arm.

And I'm not sure impromptu fighter pilot training is really an option for the good Captain. Military hardware has increased in complexity substantially over the past decades and the trend is likely to continue, and it is not a simple matter to train a fighter pilot even nowadays (if it ever was). For all the Icebreakers' faults, at least they had some professional training and combat experience.

But if they were to try training, I'm guessing Pronto would train shuttle and tug pilots (who at least already know how to fly small spacecraft), and somebody would train others to fill those vacancies (civilian vessels being easier to learn to operate than high-performance combat spacecraft, I assume).


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I think I know where this is going... Captain Rob has her own plans which don't necessarily involve rescuing Hammer - or at least, that is not her direct goal. She is about to do something extreme like going rogue (probably exactly what she's doing), and ask her crew to follow her, and she doesn't want the Icebreakers to come along because: a) they are the kids (too young and untrained, the rest of the crew are adults and properly trained, therefore responsible for the choice they'll be asked to make) and b) they'd want to rescue Hammer, once she tells the crew that she's the reason she let Shorty go. As to losing pilots, it is quite possible she'll be losing a lot of crew, so what difference do 3 people make? If you wish to argue it's 3 PILOTS, remember how little training they had - she can train others if she needs them that bad.
The biggest problem we have in guessing Captain Rob's next move is that we only have the vaguest hint as to what is in the Forsetti document. That is a large part of what's governing Captain Rob's actions, so until we know more about what's in there we are going to have trouble understanding Rob's actions and predicting what she'll do next.

Also, while the Icebreakers weren't properly trained per se, they were better trained than you could possibly expect any old noob on the ship now could be. Captain Rob stated early on that she'd rather have no pilots than poorly trained ones.

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And why send them home? She no longer believes in the Federation (? - I no longer remember what we call them), and she just sends them home to find a new life rather than deliver them to an unworthy cause to be used as cannon fodder.
USA -- United Systems Alliance. Typically referred to as the Alliance.
And until I receive information to the contrary I will take Captain Rob at her word. So I believe what you wrote there is exactly what she intended.

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Speculations about the new series? I'm afraid the Icebreakers won't be the center of it. What my main question from this one is? Who the heck is Marc? (And I'm sure it's gonna stay unanswered). Secondary question: Where exactly in the Siren did Hammer hide? Objection to this thread? Who told you the rebel leader is a "he"? It could also be a she. Real-life question? Coudn't there be temporary pages with Peter's version published later? And can I at least hope that the second parts buffer is currently being built and will start running as soon as those two pages are published?

Loser out!
As I said above, too little information at this point. It does appear that the center of the action is moving off of the Outcast, but where it's going exactly is unclear. To be honest one of the problems this comic has had over the year has been a periodic lack of focus. So hopefully in the new series we'll have a strong central theme to bring the discordant themes together.


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