Angels2200

Okay, dammit...I know that ship!
It looks a lot like the Ebon Hawk, but it's not the Ebon Hawk...it's got a Star Wars cockpit, tho...what the frig is it? GRAAAGH!

Oh, and about the story part...oooh, my, this is gonna get messy. Our girls are gonna have to go kill a friend.

It looks like she's gonna send 'em out after Toat and BG/

Either that, or from the look on her face, Kiseko may be having second thoughts on this.

S'kinna what I meant.



I think BG is learning that the one thing you can't trade for your heart's desire...is your heart. (Credit to Lois McMaster Bujold for that one, but it fits here.)

Anyway...well, I don't think Toat will go easily, peacefully, or quietly. And given the tragic way this comic has been going lately, it would not surprise me to discover we're about to lose at least two more Icebreakers. I'm guessing Toat waxes one of 'em before she and BG get toasted.

Yeah. I wonder if, by the end of this, only Kid and Quetz will be the only Icebreakers left.


Kinda a downbeat ending if you ask me, like the end of the BSG series.

I...wouldn't be surprised if this ends with all of them dead. Successful in whatever mission ends up befalling them...but dead in the process.

But if any of them survive...*psigh* I hate to say it, but you're probably right. I'd love it if my girl Whiskey survives, but if this story follows a fairly standard arc, she's expendable. Quetz and Kid however both have the most growing to do, the most potential to be great, and possibly the most redemption needed...they're perfectly primed to be the survivors who learn a lesson and grow, smarter and wiser and significantly less innocent, if there are any.

Of course, I haven't completely written off Loser yet, though the odds that she's incommunicado in an escape pod or a busted cockpit are dropping fast enough for her survival to seem ridiculous at this point. Even if she WAS alive but couldn't tell anybody, she's probably dead by now.
And, you know...Hammer's still alive so far as we know.

So there's actually potential for more survival than we might be thinking at this point. So far as I can tell, none of the Icebreakers are as yet permanently and confirmed corpses...just sayin'.



What, are you kidding? BSG ended with them getting that signal from Earth after defeating the Cylons! Granted, the series was canceled after that and they produced that horrible Galactica 1980 show, but...
...oh, wait. You mean that new show they call Battlstar Galactica, don'cha?

But, yeah...I kinna wrote off a happy ending for this comic a while back. It seems awfully, well...drama-based, as opposed to adventure-based. Oh, sure, you can dispute those terms, but I think you know what I mean; this isn't a rollicking adventure serial of unambiguous heroes and villains, it's more of an action-drama, really. You get the idea.

But maybe I'm wrong. As I pointed out, something really weird could happen and it could all turn out happy-happy joy-joy in the end. They find Loser in an escape pod, rescue Hammer, find out that Forseti is info that can end the war justly, and everybody gets rich and lives happily ever after.
...I just really, really doubt it. Heh.

Yeah, I meant the currant incarnation of Battlestar Galactica.

I still have hopes for Whiskey myself, but she'll either wind up a better person from this or will sink into a drunken, embittered veteran.. I hope Loser turns up - with Hammers surprising reapearance it's always possible - as I see her as Whiskey's chance at redemption in all this.

"Time for your new life, Mitsabi, as soon as I inject this Borg virus into your neck!"

Don't get me started.



Yeah, I agree. And given how annoyingly similar the situation between Whiksey and Loser is with my girlfriend and myself--my girl playing Whiskey's part, BTW, given that she's an ex-addict--I'd really like to see that work out for the best. Just sayin'.

Don't know about that. It sounds like they're glad to be rid of them. What damage Toat could do has pretty much been done already, and they have more pressing issues if they're going to catch up with Risae.

Captain Rob has already said that she intends to come clean with the crew, I imagine she'll start with the Icebreakers since they have the biggest stake in this (Hammer being alive and all).

I doubt the idea of abandoning her squad will ever sit right with Kiseko. If she were to live 1,000 years, it would probably still be with her.

That's...not what it sounds like to me.

"Well, at least that answers the question of what to do with Kiseko and Toat."
"Emphatically."
"Captain, there's been an unauthorized launch from..."
"Yes, I know. Bring me the Icebreakers, please."

I find it awfully difficult to see how that can be interpreted as anything other than bringing in the Icebreakers to deal with the current situation, namely the unauthorized launch; it's just a complete non-sequitor otherwise.

It's surely not the right moment to start holding briefings about Forseti, not with the ship disabled; the only thing that really seems logical here is that the Icebreakers are being sent out after Toat and BG.

Yeah, but why would she need to call the Icebreakers to her? Toat is getting away at this moment and she's calling the Icebreakers in to have a little chat first? That shows a distinct lack of urgency on her part. If Toat was really that much of a concern at the moment, wouldn't she have sent the Icebreakers to their ships so that they could, you know, catch her?

Of course it is possible that Rob wants to talk to the Icebreakers before she sends them after Toat and BG, but that just shows that there are more important things to be discussed. Like the fact that Hammer is still alive. Captain Rob has stated that she is going to come clean with the crew, she is going to have to as she is dragging them into Mutiny.

Compared to all of that I suspect that Toat getting away is of reletively minor importance. So I don't take it so much as a non-sequitur as "well, that problem's solved, now let's look at the real problems". Of course I could be wrong and Captain Rob could just be "multi-tasking".

It might just be a bad choice of words; she probably doesn't want the Icebreakers physically in her presence so much as able to listen. Perhaps "assemble the Icebreakers" would have been a better phrasing.



That's also very likely.
"...what I'm about to order you to do is very, very illegal, but necessary. Any who want to refuse the mission may bow out now; nothing will be held against you."

Hell, that was a scene in Babylon 5 when they broke away from the Earth Alliance.



I d'know...maybe this is splitting hairs, but, well...

Okay, I've lettered comics myself, and read more than my fair share of them; I'm no expert, but I know a little about the craft.
That said... "Yes, I know. Bring me the Icebreakers, please," are in the same balloon, the "I know" part referring to the unauthorized launch. Now, if I were lettering this thing--and I'm not, so take this with a grain of salt--if acknowledging the unauthorized launch and assembling the Icebreakers weren't related, I'd have put them in separate balloons.

Like I said, that may be splitting hairs, but...



Well, I guess we'll see.

...hopefully on Monday; s'my birthday, y'see, and a strip would be a bodacious present.

The Captain does have the services of another squadron available, the Green Giants. They might be a more reliable choice to carry out any borg intercepting missions, as at least they would not be called upon to place the life of a former squadron member into harm's way.

Then again, the Green Giants are slightly older, more experienced pilots, who have seen a bit more of the world. The Captain might be thinking that inexperienced youngsters who are already shaken can be more easily 'persuaded' to do something controversial that is also very much against the rules.



Happy Birthday, RocketGirl! I hope you get your wish...

Not sure I buy this logic.

Seems to me that an older, more experienced squad would be more likely to recognize and do what's necessary without much backtalk or hesitation. And without having a cow over having to kill a former squadmate.


But it's probably also a point of honor, letting the Icebreakers clean up after their own, yanno?



Thanks!



Looks like...not. Alas.

But then, I haven't gotten what I wanted for my birthday in twelve years, so...no worries. Heh.

This is kinda what I also had in mind when I said the Green Giants might be a better choice for Toat & BG extermination.

What I had in mind with the 'more experienced'... I don't think it's possible to get around the fact that the Captain's actions are skirting very close to mutiny at this point. Now the crew has two choices I think: either to support their Captain with her course of action knowing that they might also be held complicit in mutiny (against the superiors further up, not the Captain), or they can side with the chain of command and the Terran Navy against their own rebellious Captain (a delicate situation). Since the Green Giants have been around the block longer than our intrepid youngsters, they might have cooler heads that more fully realise the implications of blowing out of the sky a shuttle containing an OSI investigator under these circumstances. Could the Captain trust them not to side with the Navy, as Toat will probably try to convince them to do?

I just don't think this is a black-and-white kind of situation. Duty might command supporting the Terran Navy, personal ethics supporting the Captain (depending on the Forseti information).



Yes, but I think that's mostly from the Captain's point of view. Given the Captain's actions and the chat she had with the Admiral and Cherensky relieving her of command, assuming the Captain comes clean in front of the crew then siding with the Navy in this case might not be entirely morally unjustified.

Depends on your point of view, I guess.