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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:13 am 

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RocketGirl wrote:
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It's not that strange, Loser was Hammer's right hand woman. Essentially the XO of the squad, the XO is always the rock upon which a squad rests. The CO you can hate, but the XO is there to try and smooth things over.

Quetz was too much of a glory hound, Whiskey too much of a loose cannon, Kid was the rookie, while Bubblegum was too busy playing for the other team (scnr). That just left Hammer and Loser to be the more "professional" minded ones of the squad.


That all sounds good in theory, but it doesn't really match Loser's behavior; she was no Apone to Hammer's Gorman, if you'll forgive the Aliens ref. (Thankfully, Hammer was no Gorman, either, but you know what I mean, I hope.)
And the rest of the squad didn't really treat her like an XO, either; they just treated her like another squad member. Hell, she was barely a Hicks (to continue the tortured Aliens analogy a trifle too far). Loser was more like...Frost or Dietrich, maybe Wierzbowski.

I think it would be more along the lines of Lose being the most mundane of the squad in terms of behavior and emotion. Whenever someone else was doing something stupid, cruel, or whack, Loser would be the straight man, maybe going along, but providing a contrast of reasonableness.


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ISWolf wrote:
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ISWolf wrote:
It's not that strange, Loser was Hammer's right hand woman. Essentially the XO of the squad, the XO is always the rock upon which a squad rests. The CO you can hate, but the XO is there to try and smooth things over.

Quetz was too much of a glory hound, Whiskey too much of a loose cannon, Kid was the rookie, while Bubblegum was too busy playing for the other team (scnr). That just left Hammer and Loser to be the more "professional" minded ones of the squad.


That all sounds good in theory, but it doesn't really match Loser's behavior; she was no Apone to Hammer's Gorman, if you'll forgive the Aliens ref. (Thankfully, Hammer was no Gorman, either, but you know what I mean, I hope.)
And the rest of the squad didn't really treat her like an XO, either; they just treated her like another squad member. Hell, she was barely a Hicks (to continue the tortured Aliens analogy a trifle too far). Loser was more like...Frost or Dietrich, maybe Wierzbowski.


Yeah, but those are Marines. Marines are very different creatures from everybody else in uniform. :P

To use Wing Commander references.
Bubblegum = Jazz and Dallas mix.
Hammer = Angel and Knight mix.
Whiskey = Maniac (up to a point, she's a whole lot less obnoxious really) and Maestro mix.
Loser = Vagabond and Paladin (the easy to confide to bit) mix.
Kid = Catscratch.

Pronto is a mix between Iceman, Bossman and Hawk.


Ugh...I'm entirely too drunk from clubbing to analyze this right now; I remember Wing Commander, I played Wing Commander, but I just can't process. Maybe in the morning I'll remember whoinhell those people are. Heh. :P


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RocketGirl wrote:
ISWolf wrote:
RocketGirl wrote:
ISWolf wrote:
It's not that strange, Loser was Hammer's right hand woman. Essentially the XO of the squad, the XO is always the rock upon which a squad rests. The CO you can hate, but the XO is there to try and smooth things over.

Quetz was too much of a glory hound, Whiskey too much of a loose cannon, Kid was the rookie, while Bubblegum was too busy playing for the other team (scnr). That just left Hammer and Loser to be the more "professional" minded ones of the squad.


That all sounds good in theory, but it doesn't really match Loser's behavior; she was no Apone to Hammer's Gorman, if you'll forgive the Aliens ref. (Thankfully, Hammer was no Gorman, either, but you know what I mean, I hope.)
And the rest of the squad didn't really treat her like an XO, either; they just treated her like another squad member. Hell, she was barely a Hicks (to continue the tortured Aliens analogy a trifle too far). Loser was more like...Frost or Dietrich, maybe Wierzbowski.


Yeah, but those are Marines. Marines are very different creatures from everybody else in uniform. :P

To use Wing Commander references.
Bubblegum = Jazz and Dallas mix.
Hammer = Angel and Knight mix.
Whiskey = Maniac (up to a point, she's a whole lot less obnoxious really) and Maestro mix.
Loser = Vagabond and Paladin (the easy to confide to bit) mix.
Kid = Catscratch.

Pronto is a mix between Iceman, Bossman and Hawk.


Ugh...I'm entirely too drunk from clubbing to analyze this right now; I remember Wing Commander, I played Wing Commander, but I just can't process. Maybe in the morning I'll remember whoinhell those people are. Heh. :P


If it helps, it's a mix of characters from the various games. Dallas, Hawk and Maestro are from Prophecy and the add-on, Catscratch and Vagabond are from the Price of Freedom (IV). Knight is from Wing Commander 1, Jazz shows up during Secret Ops 2 of Wing Commander 1 and again in Wing Commander 2.

Angel is from Wing Commander 1 and 2, seeing how she dies prior to 3.
Iceman and Bossman from Wing Commander 1.

Maniac and Paladin, well, they're always around somewhere.


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Yanno...the more I look at that first panel, the more I find myself thinking...

...these two are eventually gonna fuck, aren't they? :P :twisted:


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RocketGirl wrote:
Yanno...the more I look at that first panel, the more I find myself thinking...

...these two are eventually gonna fuck, aren't they? :P :twisted:


Yup


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